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posted on February 04, 2010 at 12:06PM Inappropriate?

My husband had a KitchenAid Superba, made by Hobart, model number KDS-18 when we got married, but because I had always been used to hand-washing dishes, that is what I did and still do. However, now Sears is installing granite on my countertops and I would like to start using a dishwasher again. I have done much research on the Bosch and have zeroed in on it because of its AquaStop anti-leak feature.

The thunderbolt struck me when I was researching the Bosch on YouTube: I saw some KitchenAid videos, and ONE OF THEM WAS THE EXACT MODEL that I have, owned for 40 years by an old couple who still happily use it. In those YouTube videos, they are referred to as KitchenAid “Classics.” Here is the link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szi7nBwmkV4

I have read in the discussion groups that dishwashers are not expected to live and work for many many years the way the older machines did and now am wondering whether I ought to forego all the technology and modern additions of the Bosch and stick with the old classic.

The issue is not money because I can afford to get the $1200 Bosch. What concerns me is having a machine that will endure.

At this point, the KitchenAid has one broken part: The little blue plastic “wing”'door that snaps open and shut for dishwasher cleaning detergent and another identical compartment for I don't know what. Maybe a second wash? Maybe a rinse agent?

Should I call a repairman for the little plastic thingie or just buy a brand new Bosch with all the modern advanced technology?

 

 

replies: 11 latest post: June 17, 2010 at 01:07AM by domedude
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posted on February 04, 2010 at 12:36PM
 

You will be so happy with a new dishwasher, I think, blogger!  Even though your Kitchenaid has been reliable, I bet it is pretty noisy.  The newer model dishwashers are so quiet-and it will look terrific with your new countertops.  There are so many good reviews on Bosch machines.  Maybe check a few out to help make your decision:

http://www.mysears.com/search?q=bosch+dishwasher&target=MySears&commit=

posted on February 04, 2010 at 01:01PM
 

Well the noisy part might not be an issue, since all my friends have been telling me that they just turn their dishwashers on at bedtime!! I like that idea: toss in dishes all day long and then get them all washed while I'm in Dreamland.

I have done loads of research on the Bosch and have whittled the choice down to three, maybe a fourth.

Would the old KitchenAid be a water guzzler? Would a brand new Bosch with two wash arms be better than the old old KitchenAid with four wash arms?

Blogger, thanking JulieK for her thoughtful answer and helpful link.

posted on February 04, 2010 at 02:47PM
 
In response to blogger's post from February 04 2010 12:06PM

I forgot to add this to my question to the forum: How useful is Rinse and Hold in the Bosch? I ask because the dishwasher that I might get  ( SHE43P12UC ) does not have Rinse and Hold, and if I go one step up to the model that does have rinse and hold (SHE65P02UC), then oh-oh!, that higher end model lacks something else that I want. As a consequence, that leaves only the SHE68P02UC at $989.99.

So all of it hinges on how useful the Rinse and Hold feature really is. Can anyone tell me?  ~Blogger

posted on February 05, 2010 at 02:08PM
 

KitchenAid and Bosch are both makers of really good dishwashers, so I wouldn't have qualms about either of them!  Granted, as dishwashers get more and more sophisticated, there are more parts that may break, so the average life cycle of a dishwasher is about 10-12 years.  The 40-year dishwasher is an anomaly, no matter what the brand.

The Rinse & Hold feature is good if you don't want to run your dishwasher everyday.  For people (like me) who don't have a huge family, it enables you to just rinse the dishes at the end of the day to get rid of all the food particles and leave the heavy-duty washing till you fill up the dishwasher.

Hope this helps!!

posted on February 05, 2010 at 03:54PM
 
In response to jxu's post from February 05 2010 02:08PM

Thank you, jxu, for responding. I spoke to a repairman today about that old KitchenAid by Hobart and discovered that the little blue plastic lid over the dishwasher detergent well costs $100 and decided to just buy a new dishwasher. I asked the repairman what he recommended for reliability a low repair profile, and he told me. I am going through with my earlier decision to buy a Bosch with the AquaStop leak guard.

Thanks a lot for the Rinse and Hold info. I think that I should get a dishwasher that has that feature since I will be washing at the end of the day. There is just one of me, plus the dog's food and water dishes.     :-)

Blogger......

posted on February 05, 2010 at 05:07PM
 

Greetings....My personal experiance with KitchenAid and Bosch dish washers:

I've installed a "multitude" of KitchenAid models over the years most if not all have been so loud that carrying on a conversation while they are cycling was  a challange. Mechanical failures were rare in the same models in my encounters. Longevity....some that I replaced were avarage aged at twenty years +/- when they developed mecahanical problems etc.

Regarding Bocsh machines.....I've installed "many",mostly in the more discriminating multi-million dollar homes I've had the prviledge of working on. The Bosch units I installed have been so well packaged and insullated that they are "whisper quite" a feature that impresses me. It was also difficult to hear the water flowing into the machine as I first tested it out for the new home owners.

I've owned.....KitchenAid and have been satisfied with the overall operation and dependability.

When the time comes (and that may be soon) I'll be choosing a Bosch for my own kitchen!

Bosch= something like a finely tuned sports car

KitchenAid= the comfort of a familiar noise in a dependable family car

 

Enjoy your new Bosch!

posted on February 05, 2010 at 08:22PM
 

shell out 12oo frog hides and then not expect it to last?

man there is a lot wrong with that picture in my dinosaur book..

Keep that old working unit..no doubt its going to last longer than a new one....

posted on February 05, 2010 at 10:32PM
 

Dear Baited: I spoke with a dishwasher repairman this morning. The little blue plastic cover for the dishwasher detergent well would cost me $100 to replace. I assume that any other parts would also cost a lot more. The repairman felt that it would be wise for me to get a new machine. He spoke highly of the Bosch and the KitchenAid, but since Bosch has AquaStop, I'm going with a Bosch. Now the challenge is to finalize which one I will get. One thing is sure: I want those controls visible and not concealed in the top of the door.

~Blogger

posted on February 06, 2010 at 08:29AM
 

Sounds like your well on your way to making a decision. I too am a big fan of the Bosch dishwasher lineup. As an appliance salesperson this feature has been a key element for me to make a sale. Consumers do want the comfort of knowing that there is some protection in the event of a leak. Especially since many people run the dishwasher at night when the energy rates are lower and everyone has eaten for the day.

posted on May 08, 2010 at 10:36PM
 

Do you want to sell the KDS-18??

posted on June 17, 2010 at 01:07AM
 

I have a KDS 18 and now it won't drain.  It runs through the whole cycle but there remains about 1 1/2 inch water with food particles in it.  What do I do? 

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