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posted on August 24, 2008 at 09:01AM Inappropriate?

When I joined this site a few days ago, I guess my assumption was that it was a site intended to be a forum where people outside of the Sears and Kmart employment rolls would be able to provide input as to what can be done to improve these former retail giants. Since reading a lot of the posts and comments, it appears there are more employees (current and former) than general public posting here. Don't get me wrong, input from employees is VITAL, but it's only one side of the story. Employees who are willing to share their opinions are valuable because most will just grumble but not speak up. However, if the plan for this site is truly to improve these companies back into major standing, then it's equally vital that there be a stronger showing of disaffected consumers. They (we) will be able to tell you why shopping at these stores has become a turn off. Only a small percentage of consumers are blindly loyal to a retailer. Most people shop for, value, service, convenience, etc.

The biggest challenge for this site (in my opinion) is how to attract more of the general population here to provide their perspectives. If this is just a forum that primarily attracts employees, then nothing will truly be resolved because part of the equation will be missing. And the spiral will continue.

I'll be honest, I've been more of a Kmart shopper (in the past) than a Sears shopper (except for Craftsman tools). I've watched Kmart go from a retail leader to a virtual has-been. It's not been something I've enjoyed watching because I grew up depending on Kmart as a major resource. Other retailers showed up in my area that were able to fill the need (Meijer, and more recently, Wal-Mart). Why was this possible? I'm not sure, but I watched Kmart blunder along (just my opinion). The Super-K and Big K experiments were poorly thought out. They appeared to be straw-grasping iniatives. In general, I think they were flops. Back then I thought Kmart would have done better if it had worked on rebuilding it's base before trying to become something it wasn't. I still think that way. Combined with Sears, one would think that these two could be major players in the retail world. Instead, I perceive that the situation is worsening. Part of it definitely has to do with the morale of the employees (it doesn't take much reading here or very many visits to the stores to figure that out). That won't likely change until management is seeing improvements on the bottom line. But for that to happen, the obvious answer is to get the consumers back into the checkout lanes. I think consumers will deal with poor morale and a less organized store if the selection and prices are decent. Kmart was never a specialty store. It was a discount retailer. Specialty lines of products probably seemed like a good idea, but I believe too much focus was placed there while the rest of the operation was virtually ignored. I could walk through a Kmart store today and show many reasons why I don't want to leave any of my dollars behind. I try to shop Kmart, but time and again I'm walking out disappointed and empty-handed.

Let me give you a few of my personal examples of what I mean. I've gone to Kmart recently to take advantage of a sale on men's cargo pants. There were plenty of pants available, but the size I needed wasn't in stock, nor was it even part of the normally stocked sizes. I didn't need anything unusual (I'm not abnormally large or tall). I went across the street to Meijer and found what I needed immediately. Another example has to do with tools. Since joining Sears, Kmart doesn't seem to offer any other tools than Craftsman. That would be fine if they offered a full selection of Craftsman, but it's limited. To get the tool I needed, I either had to drive to the nearest Sears (several miles away) or shop at a different retailer more close by. Where do you think I went? Likewise with paint. I love the Sears brand of paint (we used to have a Sears Hardware in our area). All I can find at Kmart is Martha Stewart paint. Maybe it's good paint, but I'm not interested (mainly due to the inflated price). How about footwear. I don't wear plastic shoes (man-made materials). Kmart needs to stock better quality items in this area if they want to be taken seriously. I realize these could be issues primarily with my local Kmart, but I'm not planning to drive to a different one to find out.

Hopefully I haven't ticked anyone off here. If this site continues to be primarily employee dirven, then you won't have to deal with me long. Certainly, employees need to be involved in this forum, but the general public needs to be here as well. Otherwise this will be another failure.

replies: 10 latest post: August 23, 2009 at 05:38AM by AdamO
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posted on August 24, 2008 at 09:57AM
 
well since every customer who takes the survey that prints on a sears salescheck is directed here there should be a nice big pool of potential posters, however if the verbatiums on the customer serveys sears gets are anyindication good experence or bad most customers dont bother commneting unless its a major problem or feel they can get something for thier trouble.
posted on August 24, 2008 at 10:50AM
 
In response to goodole312's post from August 24 2008 09:57AM
goodole312 said…
well since every customer who takes the survey that prints on a sears salescheck is directed here there should be a nice big pool of potential posters, however if the verbatiums on the customer serveys sears gets are anyindication good experence or bad most customers dont bother commneting unless its a major problem or feel they can get something for thier trouble.

Actually, that's one of the challenges I was referring to - how to get the disaffected customers involved. Just surveying employees and current customers won't give an accurate picture. I came in through an email invitation via a third party (Zoomerang), but I'm not necessarily suggesting that the company go the email route (very annoying). There has to be a way to attract the masses (perhaps through television commercials, or by placing an invitation in the weekly sales papers that come with newspapers?).

This won't mean much if it's not done intelligently and with dedication. A half-hearted effort, or ignoring the accumulated information will further the problems. The potential for making positive steps is tremendous.

posted on August 24, 2008 at 05:19PM
 
actually i wonder now weve been gathering emails a month maybe more  for cupons and online ads i wonder now if they also get a link tho this site in there as well.

most people just really dont care one way or the other either shopping anywhere is such a small part of thier day that they wouldnt comment unless "forced" to and even then theyd just probably make a neutral comment and move on

frankly this site appears to be just one big PR ploy nothing will come of it except a few people venting in public and the SHC cronies claiming that they will forward our complaints to thier higerups
posted on August 24, 2008 at 10:02PM
 
I would like to to tell you about my experience.  I filled out one of those online surveys and I told them about my experience at their Danville store.  I received two emails from their corporate office and a phone call from their regional manager.  I had some very negative comments on the store here.  The store was nasty, poorly stocked and had rude employees.  About two weeks after I took that survey, I can honestly say that the store in Danville had a major turnaround occur.  Whether or not it was from my email or it was just on the Kmart to do list, but that store is so clean now that you could eat off the floors.  All the junk in the asiles are gone and merchandise has actually been delivered to the store and the shelves are stocked.  The rude people they had working there are gone and new, friendly salespeople have replaced them.  It probably helped that a new Target opened here, but something changed in that store.  I am glad it did.  I grew up going to Kmart and I like the store. I would like it even better if they remodeled the store, but just having stuff in stock is an vast improvement not to mention someone who actually tells you thank you for shopping at Kmart.
posted on August 25, 2008 at 10:16AM
 
In response to ace1210's post from August 24 2008 09:01AM

Thanks for your comments. Your point about customer participation is spot on. The majority of members are customers at this point, but many of them seem to prefer to comment by email or survey at the moment. As with most forums, the vast majority of members tend to observe rather than participate and that is okay. But we do get feedback in a variety of forms, and that input has already been tremendously helpful to date. We do distribute this feedback to senior executives and store managers and the plan is to expand that process.

I think the message I am getting is that we need to start showing how all of this is working: what is happing with that input and what is changing. I think we also need to make this community more visible, so we working on some changes that should address that by the end of summer. Obviously, I think that customer experience will ultimately tell us whether things are working, but in the meantime please continue to share your thoughts and ideas. We are listening.

posted on August 25, 2008 at 02:29PM
 
In response to ace1210's post from August 24 2008 09:01AM
I like your post and agree with everything. Your examples are true to my experience as well. Other points are; many employees on the site such as myself aren't store or store management employees. I shop there enough to provide the feedback needed from a shopper, as a shopper. I am a Sears employee but don't even work on the retail side of the business. I find that I really want to make things better - about the best I can do is shop there and give feedback. The other point which I agree with you on is that Sears should only do what it does really well. Why was it neccessary to cross pollenate the two stores such that one is doing what the other one is doing,, but only half a&&d half breed. Why? I think one idea would have been to make Kmart the great soft lines since Sears is the great hardlines store but lacks designs in softlines. To that point give Kmart the toy business and get it out of Sears stores...do people ever go to a mall to buy toys? NOT... usually they go to walmart, target, or something. Okay I digress now. Thanks for your post.
posted on August 26, 2008 at 08:22PM
 
I have a Sears Essentials a few blocks from home, but I go to the other side of town to Kmart. Why? I feel like I am visiting my extended family there. Every employee is nice, cheerful, and very helpful. Must be hard for them to do, since the neighborhood over the past few years has had a terrific downturn. Not very nice around the store, but once I'm inside, I always find what I want, and for decent prices. One big draw for me; it's the only store I am aware of that still does layaway. Living on social Security means I can't always buy what I need all ot once,and this helps greatly. I would like to see the Sears stores dump Martha Stewart. Never did like her and that line has gotten boring. Maybe Sears should put up K Mart signs and drop The Sears logo. Products are merging so I can't tell which store I'm in anymore. Sears line, like Kenmore and Craftsman should continue tho. Good quality at reasonalble prices will always bring customers in.
posted on August 28, 2008 at 04:05PM
 
after looking at these boards for the past week or so ive noticed that it feels like a part time half***ed effort on the part of the hoffman representatives much like alot of their initiatives good idea lousy follow though
posted on August 13, 2009 at 12:05AM
 

Anyone fill out a positive CSAT and get directed to this site?

Anyone?

Marko...

posted on August 23, 2009 at 05:38AM
 

Site works good though.

"If you build it - They will come."

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